Perry Barr Free Form Guide | Full Fields | Race 10 | Saturday, 28th September 2024

21:36

CHRISTY LAMBE MEMORIAL STAYERS DIV 1

GBP £900

660m ALL WEATHER

52214

1. LAMORNA LEXI (IRE)

A D SCOTT

Form

Odds

3yo BL B | Sire: Broadstrand Bono (Ire) | Dam: Minnies Oksana (Ire)

Career 28: 7 8 3

Course 1: 0 0 0

Last 12m 24: 5 6 3

Dist 5: 1 1 0

First Up 2: 1 0 1

Firm 0: 0 0 0

Second Up 2: 0 1 0

Good 0: 0 0 0

AW 28: 7 8 3

Soft 0: 0 0 0

Turf 0: 0 0 0

Heavy 0: 0 0 0

W% - P% 25% - 64%

Season 19: 5 4 2

FP	Marg	Date	Trk	$R.PM	Dist	SOT	Box	SP	Sec.Time	Winner/2nd
4 of 6	1.4L	07-Sep-2024	PEBA	GBP £675	710m	AW	1	$34	16.55	SAVANA JACKPOT
1 of 5	0.8L	24-Aug-2024	MONM	GBP £800	684m	AW	1	$8	15.53	MAD FOR STERLING
2 of 6	0.3L	04-Aug-2024	GBTO	GBP £550	712m	AW	1	$2.5	16.54	MRS DOYLE
2 of 5	7.5L	28-Jul-2024	GBTO	GBP £1,000	500m	AW	1	$26	4.37	DANNYS GEM
5 of 5	9.2L	21-Jul-2024	GBTO	GBP £490	500m	AW	4	$21	4.18	ANSWERING
3 of 6	6.5L	14-Jul-2024	GBTO	GBP £550	500m	AW	2	$13	4.32	VIS A VIS
3 months 1 days
6 of 6	9.5L	14-Apr-2024	GBTO	GBP £550	712m	AW	5	$7	16.83	EAGLES REST
1 of 5	0.3L	07-Apr-2024	GBTO	GBP £490	712m	AW	1	$3.75	16.12	TORY BELLATRIX
3 of 5	7L	31-Mar-2024	CRFD	GBP £860	714m	AW	2	$2.375	23.72	CAPEL ROSE
1 of 4	2L	24-Mar-2024	CRFD	GBP £560	714m	AW	1	$2.75	23.58	CAPEL ROSE

54321

2. TOMMYS BOLT (IRE)

C S FEREDAY

Form

Odds

4yo BL D | Sire: Droopys Sydney (Ire) | Dam: Droopys Sim (Ire)

Career 97: 12 15 24

Course 4: 0 1 0

Last 12m 41: 6 8 9

Dist 40: 7 7 9

First Up 1: 0 0 0

Firm 0: 0 0 0

Second Up 1: 0 0 1

Good 0: 0 0 0

AW 97: 12 15 24

Soft 0: 0 0 0

Turf 0: 0 0 0

Heavy 0: 0 0 0

W% - P% 12% - 53%

Season 31: 6 6 6

FP	Marg	Date	Trk	$R.PM	Dist	SOT	Box	SP	Sec.Time	Winner/2nd
1 of 6	0.2L	12-Sep-2024	MONM	GBP £455	630m	AW	2	$4.333	13.12	WINTERFIELD MARY
2 of 6	1.8L	05-Sep-2024	MONM	GBP £455	630m	AW	1	$8	13	LONGACRES ROMEO
3 of 5	5.2L	31-Aug-2024	MONM	GBP £365	480m	AW	1	$5	4.6	BALLYHEALY STAR
4 of 6	2L	26-Aug-2024	MONM	GBP £430	480m	AW	2	$17	4.47	WILLOWS BILL
5 of 5	6.4L	12-Aug-2024	MONM	GBP £400	630m	AW	2	$6	13.34	SUGAR MOON
1 of 5	0.3L	08-Aug-2024	MONM	GBP £365	480m	AW	1	$3.75	4.59	BLOOS BOY KERRY
4 of 5	7.5L	01-Aug-2024	MONM	GBP £495	630m	AW	1	$5	13.39	BRUIN
5 of 5	8.8L	25-Jul-2024	MONM	GBP £495	630m	AW	1	$4.5	12.95	HAWK
4 of 6	10.1L	20-Jul-2024	MONM	GBP £625	630m	AW	1	$21	12.82	NEW DESTINY
1 of 5	1L	13-Jul-2024	MONM	GBP £555	630m	AW	2	$4	12.96	WINTERFIELD MARY

12614

3. SAVANA JACKPOT (IRE)

D HENRY

Form

Odds

2yo BDL D | Sire: Good News (Ire) | Dam: Aayamza Express (Ire)

Career 29: 7 5 6

Course 2: 1 0 0

Last 12m 27: 5 5 6

Dist 12: 3 3 2

First Up 3: 2 0 1

Firm 0: 0 0 0

Second Up 3: 1 1 0

Good 0: 0 0 0

AW 25: 5 5 5

Soft 0: 0 0 0

Turf 0: 0 0 0

Heavy 0: 0 0 0

W% - P% 24% - 62%

Season 23: 4 5 5

FP	Marg	Date	Trk	$R.PM	Dist	SOT	Box	SP	Sec.Time	Winner/2nd
4 of 6	6L	14-Sep-2024	PEBA	GBP £750	710m	AW	5	$4.5	16.65	HURRY UP JORDAN
1 of 6	0.8L	07-Sep-2024	PEBA	GBP £675	710m	AW	4	$3.5	16.37	HOPIEHOPIEHOPIE
6 of 6	5.7L	24-Aug-2024	MONM	GBP £15.0k	630m	AW	5	$13	12.96	DROOPYS CLUE
2 of 6	1.2L	17-Aug-2024	MONM	GBP £750	630m	AW	4	$5	12.86	QUEEN GEORGIA
1 of 6	0.8L	10-Aug-2024	MONM	GBP £725	630m	AW	5	$3.25	12.94	BALLYMAC JOHNJO
2 of 6	2.5L	03-Aug-2024	MONM	GBP £625	630m	AW	4	$5	12.89	MAGICAL LUNA
4 of 5	11.8L	27-Jul-2024	OXF	GBP £490	847m	AW	4	$2.25	27	MAGICAL LUNA
1 of 5	16.2L	21-Jul-2024	GBTO	GBP £490	712m	AW	3	$1.25	15.89	IVY HILL WILLOW
4 of 6	8L	13-Jul-2024	HOVE	GBP £675	695m	AW	4	$6	14.68	BALLYMAC TAYLOR
3 of 6	5L	07-Jul-2024	SHLD	GBP £750	500m	AW	5	$11	4.49	STAY LARGE

21155

4. CHARLIE KNOWS (IRE)

J G MULLINS

Form

Odds

2yo BL D | Sire: Malachi (Ire) | Dam: Swift Causeway (Ire)

Career 22: 6 3 4

Course 0: 0 0 0

Last 12m 22: 6 3 4

Dist 8: 4 0 0

First Up 1: 1 0 0

Firm 0: 0 0 0

Second Up 1: 0 0 1

Good 0: 0 0 0

AW 22: 6 3 4

Soft 0: 0 0 0

Turf 0: 0 0 0

Heavy 0: 0 0 0

W% - P% 27% - 59%

Season 22: 6 3 4

FP	Marg	Date	Trk	$R.PM	Dist	SOT	Box	SP	Sec.Time	Winner/2nd
5 of 6	10.4L	11-Sep-2024	GTY	GBP £550	659m	AW	5	$2.875	16.93	LITTLERS NUKE
5 of 6	5.7L	06-Sep-2024	ROFD	GBP £625	575m	AW	6	$9	13.9	FABULOUS SONIQUE
1 of 6	1L	28-Aug-2024	GTY	GBP £395	462m	AW	5	$2.875	5.29	DRUMDOIT LOR
1 of 5	0.3L	24-Aug-2024	GTY	GBP £540	659m	AW	5	$5.5	16.57	ROMEO HOTSHOT
2 of 5	6.8L	14-Aug-2024	GTY	GBP £345	462m	AW	5	$2.1	5.5	CHELMS JAGUAR
1 of 5	5.5L	10-Aug-2024	GTY	GBP £395	659m	AW	4	$2.375	16.45	MEENAGH MULLARKY
4 of 6	8.2L	03-Aug-2024	MONM	GBP £625	630m	AW	4	$34	12.83	NEW DESTINY
3 of 5	2.8L	29-Jul-2024	GTY	GBP £395	462m	AW	4	$7	5.4	MISS BOSSY
5 of 6	12L	24-Jul-2024	GTY	GBP £450	659m	AW	4	$3	16.57	SWIFT DEPOT
4 of 5	8.5L	20-Jul-2024	GTY	GBP £540	659m	AW	5	$4.5	17.11	MRS DOYLE

51116

6. TODDYS THUNDER (IRE)

T C HEILBRON

Form

Odds

2yo BDL B | Sire: Droopys Sydney (Ire) | Dam: Yahoo Katie (Ire)

Career 19: 8 1 3

Course 2: 1 0 0

Last 12m 19: 8 1 3

Dist 7: 5 0 0

First Up 1: 0 0 0

Firm 0: 0 0 0

Second Up 1: 1 0 0

Good 0: 0 0 0

AW 19: 8 1 3

Soft 0: 0 0 0

Turf 0: 0 0 0

Heavy 0: 0 0 0

W% - P% 42% - 63%

Season 19: 8 1 3

FP	Marg	Date	Trk	$R.PM	Dist	SOT	Box	SP	Sec.Time	Winner/2nd
6 of 6	3L	14-Sep-2024	PEBA	GBP £750	710m	AW	6	$2.375	16.5	CLONA CURLY
1 of 6	4.8L	07-Sep-2024	PEBA	GBP £675	710m	AW	6	$2.5	16.35	MAGICAL LUNA
1 of 6	4.2L	25-Aug-2024	SHLD	GBP £750	660m	AW	6	$2.5	13.1	TRICKYS BUTTONS
1 of 5	2.5L	18-Aug-2024	SHLD	GBP £750	660m	AW	6	$3.5	13.07	TRICKYS BUTTONS
5 of 5	9.6L	11-Aug-2024	SHLD	GBP £680	660m	AW	5	$4.5	13.2	FARNEYS WILLIE
1 of 5	4L	04-Aug-2024	SHLD	GBP £680	660m	AW	4	$1.909	13.25	SOME PLANNING
1 of 6	4.2L	25-Jul-2024	NCA	GBP £600	640m	AW	4	$1.909	13.27	BALLYCOOLE MAGGY
5 of 6	8.4L	18-Jul-2024	NCA	GBP £650	480m	AW	4	$8	4.75	LEIGHAS DREAM
3 of 6	6.5L	11-Jul-2024	NCA	GBP £650	480m	AW	4	$5	4.76	BALLYMAC CAMILLA
1 of 6	0.8L	04-Jul-2024	NCA	GBP £650	480m	AW	5	$11	4.58	NOELLES MILANO

Tab
Form

Runner A/S

Trainer (Box)

A/S

Box

Trainer

Odds

Best Odds Fluc

Top
Bookmaker

Radar Ratings

52214

LAMORNA LEXI (IRE) 3B

DIST

A D SCOTT

(1)

A D SCOTT

3yo BL B | Sire: Broadstrand Bono (Ire) | Dam: Minnies Oksana (Ire)

Career 28: 7 8 3

Course 1: 0 0 0

Last 12m 24: 5 6 3

Dist 5: 1 1 0

First Up 2: 1 0 1

Firm 0: 0 0 0

Second Up 2: 0 1 0

Good 0: 0 0 0

AW 28: 7 8 3

Soft 0: 0 0 0

Turf 0: 0 0 0

Heavy 0: 0 0 0

W% - P% 25% - 64%

Season 19: 5 4 2

FP	Marg	Date	Trk	$R.PM	Dist	SOT	Box	SP	Sec.Time	Winner/2nd
4 of 6	1.4L	07-Sep-2024	PEBA	GBP £675	710m	AW	1	$34	16.55	SAVANA JACKPOT
1 of 5	0.8L	24-Aug-2024	MONM	GBP £800	684m	AW	1	$8	15.53	MAD FOR STERLING
2 of 6	0.3L	04-Aug-2024	GBTO	GBP £550	712m	AW	1	$2.5	16.54	MRS DOYLE
2 of 5	7.5L	28-Jul-2024	GBTO	GBP £1,000	500m	AW	1	$26	4.37	DANNYS GEM
5 of 5	9.2L	21-Jul-2024	GBTO	GBP £490	500m	AW	4	$21	4.18	ANSWERING
3 of 6	6.5L	14-Jul-2024	GBTO	GBP £550	500m	AW	2	$13	4.32	VIS A VIS
3 months 1 days
6 of 6	9.5L	14-Apr-2024	GBTO	GBP £550	712m	AW	5	$7	16.83	EAGLES REST
1 of 5	0.3L	07-Apr-2024	GBTO	GBP £490	712m	AW	1	$3.75	16.12	TORY BELLATRIX
3 of 5	7L	31-Mar-2024	CRFD	GBP £860	714m	AW	2	$2.375	23.72	CAPEL ROSE
1 of 4	2L	24-Mar-2024	CRFD	GBP £560	714m	AW	1	$2.75	23.58	CAPEL ROSE

54321

TOMMYS BOLT (IRE) 4D

trk

DIST

C S FEREDAY

(2)

C S FEREDAY

4yo BL D | Sire: Droopys Sydney (Ire) | Dam: Droopys Sim (Ire)

Career 97: 12 15 24

Course 4: 0 1 0

Last 12m 41: 6 8 9

Dist 40: 7 7 9

First Up 1: 0 0 0

Firm 0: 0 0 0

Second Up 1: 0 0 1

Good 0: 0 0 0

AW 97: 12 15 24

Soft 0: 0 0 0

Turf 0: 0 0 0

Heavy 0: 0 0 0

W% - P% 12% - 53%

Season 31: 6 6 6

FP	Marg	Date	Trk	$R.PM	Dist	SOT	Box	SP	Sec.Time	Winner/2nd
1 of 6	0.2L	12-Sep-2024	MONM	GBP £455	630m	AW	2	$4.333	13.12	WINTERFIELD MARY
2 of 6	1.8L	05-Sep-2024	MONM	GBP £455	630m	AW	1	$8	13	LONGACRES ROMEO
3 of 5	5.2L	31-Aug-2024	MONM	GBP £365	480m	AW	1	$5	4.6	BALLYHEALY STAR
4 of 6	2L	26-Aug-2024	MONM	GBP £430	480m	AW	2	$17	4.47	WILLOWS BILL
5 of 5	6.4L	12-Aug-2024	MONM	GBP £400	630m	AW	2	$6	13.34	SUGAR MOON
1 of 5	0.3L	08-Aug-2024	MONM	GBP £365	480m	AW	1	$3.75	4.59	BLOOS BOY KERRY
4 of 5	7.5L	01-Aug-2024	MONM	GBP £495	630m	AW	1	$5	13.39	BRUIN
5 of 5	8.8L	25-Jul-2024	MONM	GBP £495	630m	AW	1	$4.5	12.95	HAWK
4 of 6	10.1L	20-Jul-2024	MONM	GBP £625	630m	AW	1	$21	12.82	NEW DESTINY
1 of 5	1L	13-Jul-2024	MONM	GBP £555	630m	AW	2	$4	12.96	WINTERFIELD MARY

12614

SAVANA JACKPOT (IRE) 2D

TRK

DIST

D HENRY

(3)

D HENRY

2yo BDL D | Sire: Good News (Ire) | Dam: Aayamza Express (Ire)

Career 29: 7 5 6

Course 2: 1 0 0

Last 12m 27: 5 5 6

Dist 12: 3 3 2

First Up 3: 2 0 1

Firm 0: 0 0 0

Second Up 3: 1 1 0

Good 0: 0 0 0

AW 25: 5 5 5

Soft 0: 0 0 0

Turf 0: 0 0 0

Heavy 0: 0 0 0

W% - P% 24% - 62%

Season 23: 4 5 5

FP	Marg	Date	Trk	$R.PM	Dist	SOT	Box	SP	Sec.Time	Winner/2nd
4 of 6	6L	14-Sep-2024	PEBA	GBP £750	710m	AW	5	$4.5	16.65	HURRY UP JORDAN
1 of 6	0.8L	07-Sep-2024	PEBA	GBP £675	710m	AW	4	$3.5	16.37	HOPIEHOPIEHOPIE
6 of 6	5.7L	24-Aug-2024	MONM	GBP £15.0k	630m	AW	5	$13	12.96	DROOPYS CLUE
2 of 6	1.2L	17-Aug-2024	MONM	GBP £750	630m	AW	4	$5	12.86	QUEEN GEORGIA
1 of 6	0.8L	10-Aug-2024	MONM	GBP £725	630m	AW	5	$3.25	12.94	BALLYMAC JOHNJO
2 of 6	2.5L	03-Aug-2024	MONM	GBP £625	630m	AW	4	$5	12.89	MAGICAL LUNA
4 of 5	11.8L	27-Jul-2024	OXF	GBP £490	847m	AW	4	$2.25	27	MAGICAL LUNA
1 of 5	16.2L	21-Jul-2024	GBTO	GBP £490	712m	AW	3	$1.25	15.89	IVY HILL WILLOW
4 of 6	8L	13-Jul-2024	HOVE	GBP £675	695m	AW	4	$6	14.68	BALLYMAC TAYLOR
3 of 6	5L	07-Jul-2024	SHLD	GBP £750	500m	AW	5	$11	4.49	STAY LARGE

21155

CHARLIE KNOWS (IRE) 2D

DIST

LBF

J G MULLINS

(4)

J G MULLINS

2yo BL D | Sire: Malachi (Ire) | Dam: Swift Causeway (Ire)

Career 22: 6 3 4

Course 0: 0 0 0

Last 12m 22: 6 3 4

Dist 8: 4 0 0

First Up 1: 1 0 0

Firm 0: 0 0 0

Second Up 1: 0 0 1

Good 0: 0 0 0

AW 22: 6 3 4

Soft 0: 0 0 0

Turf 0: 0 0 0

Heavy 0: 0 0 0

W% - P% 27% - 59%

Season 22: 6 3 4

FP	Marg	Date	Trk	$R.PM	Dist	SOT	Box	SP	Sec.Time	Winner/2nd
5 of 6	10.4L	11-Sep-2024	GTY	GBP £550	659m	AW	5	$2.875	16.93	LITTLERS NUKE
5 of 6	5.7L	06-Sep-2024	ROFD	GBP £625	575m	AW	6	$9	13.9	FABULOUS SONIQUE
1 of 6	1L	28-Aug-2024	GTY	GBP £395	462m	AW	5	$2.875	5.29	DRUMDOIT LOR
1 of 5	0.3L	24-Aug-2024	GTY	GBP £540	659m	AW	5	$5.5	16.57	ROMEO HOTSHOT
2 of 5	6.8L	14-Aug-2024	GTY	GBP £345	462m	AW	5	$2.1	5.5	CHELMS JAGUAR
1 of 5	5.5L	10-Aug-2024	GTY	GBP £395	659m	AW	4	$2.375	16.45	MEENAGH MULLARKY
4 of 6	8.2L	03-Aug-2024	MONM	GBP £625	630m	AW	4	$34	12.83	NEW DESTINY
3 of 5	2.8L	29-Jul-2024	GTY	GBP £395	462m	AW	4	$7	5.4	MISS BOSSY
5 of 6	12L	24-Jul-2024	GTY	GBP £450	659m	AW	4	$3	16.57	SWIFT DEPOT
4 of 5	8.5L	20-Jul-2024	GTY	GBP £540	659m	AW	5	$4.5	17.11	MRS DOYLE

51116

TODDYS THUNDER (IRE) 2B

TRK

DIST

LBF

T C HEILBRON

(6)

T C HEILBRON

2yo BDL B | Sire: Droopys Sydney (Ire) | Dam: Yahoo Katie (Ire)

Career 19: 8 1 3

Course 2: 1 0 0

Last 12m 19: 8 1 3

Dist 7: 5 0 0

First Up 1: 0 0 0

Firm 0: 0 0 0

Second Up 1: 1 0 0

Good 0: 0 0 0

AW 19: 8 1 3

Soft 0: 0 0 0

Turf 0: 0 0 0

Heavy 0: 0 0 0

W% - P% 42% - 63%

Season 19: 8 1 3

FP	Marg	Date	Trk	$R.PM	Dist	SOT	Box	SP	Sec.Time	Winner/2nd
6 of 6	3L	14-Sep-2024	PEBA	GBP £750	710m	AW	6	$2.375	16.5	CLONA CURLY
1 of 6	4.8L	07-Sep-2024	PEBA	GBP £675	710m	AW	6	$2.5	16.35	MAGICAL LUNA
1 of 6	4.2L	25-Aug-2024	SHLD	GBP £750	660m	AW	6	$2.5	13.1	TRICKYS BUTTONS
1 of 5	2.5L	18-Aug-2024	SHLD	GBP £750	660m	AW	6	$3.5	13.07	TRICKYS BUTTONS
5 of 5	9.6L	11-Aug-2024	SHLD	GBP £680	660m	AW	5	$4.5	13.2	FARNEYS WILLIE
1 of 5	4L	04-Aug-2024	SHLD	GBP £680	660m	AW	4	$1.909	13.25	SOME PLANNING
1 of 6	4.2L	25-Jul-2024	NCA	GBP £600	640m	AW	4	$1.909	13.27	BALLYCOOLE MAGGY
5 of 6	8.4L	18-Jul-2024	NCA	GBP £650	480m	AW	4	$8	4.75	LEIGHAS DREAM
3 of 6	6.5L	11-Jul-2024	NCA	GBP £650	480m	AW	4	$5	4.76	BALLYMAC CAMILLA
1 of 6	0.8L	04-Jul-2024	NCA	GBP £650	480m	AW	5	$11	4.58	NOELLES MILANO

Computer Selection Panels

R&S Tips	Rated to Win	12M	$L12M	Career SR
3. SAVANA JACKPOT	4. CHARLIE KNOWS	3. SAVANA JACKPOT	6. TODDYS THUNDER	6. TODDYS THUNDER
1. LAMORNA LEXI	3. SAVANA JACKPOT	4. CHARLIE KNOWS	3. SAVANA JACKPOT	4. CHARLIE KNOWS
2. TOMMYS BOLT	6. TODDYS THUNDER	6. TODDYS THUNDER	1. LAMORNA LEXI	1. LAMORNA LEXI

6 TODDYS THUNDER (11pts)	3 SAVANA JACKPOT (10pts)	4 CHARLIE KNOWS (8pts)	1 LAMORNA LEXI (6pts)	2 TOMMYS BOLT (1pts)

R&S Tips

3. SAVANA JACKPOT

1. LAMORNA LEXI

2. TOMMYS BOLT

Rate to Win

4. CHARLIE KNOWS

3. SAVANA JACKPOT

6. TODDYS THUNDER

12M

3. SAVANA JACKPOT

4. CHARLIE KNOWS

6. TODDYS THUNDER

$L12M

6. TODDYS THUNDER

3. SAVANA JACKPOT

1. LAMORNA LEXI

Career SR

6. TODDYS THUNDER

4. CHARLIE KNOWS

1. LAMORNA LEXI

6 TODDYS THUNDER (11 pts)

3 SAVANA JACKPOT (10 pts)

4 CHARLIE KNOWS (8 pts)

1 LAMORNA LEXI (6 pts)

2 TOMMYS BOLT (1 pts)

View All Race Tips

No.
1
2
3
4
6

Perry Barr Form Guide (Race 10) | Full Fields

Saturday, 28th September 2024

CHRISTY LAMBE MEMORIAL STAYERS DIV 1

CHRISTY LAMBE MEMORIAL STAYERS DIV 1

3yo BL B | Sire: Broadstrand Bono (Ire) | Dam: Minnies Oksana (Ire)

3 months 1 days

4yo BL D | Sire: Droopys Sydney (Ire) | Dam: Droopys Sim (Ire)

2yo BDL D | Sire: Good News (Ire) | Dam: Aayamza Express (Ire)

2yo BL D | Sire: Malachi (Ire) | Dam: Swift Causeway (Ire)

2yo BDL B | Sire: Droopys Sydney (Ire) | Dam: Yahoo Katie (Ire)

3yo BL B | Sire: Broadstrand Bono (Ire) | Dam: Minnies Oksana (Ire)

3 months 1 days

4yo BL D | Sire: Droopys Sydney (Ire) | Dam: Droopys Sim (Ire)

2yo BDL D | Sire: Good News (Ire) | Dam: Aayamza Express (Ire)

2yo BL D | Sire: Malachi (Ire) | Dam: Swift Causeway (Ire)

2yo BDL B | Sire: Droopys Sydney (Ire) | Dam: Yahoo Katie (Ire)

R&S Tips

Rate to Win

12M

$L12M

Career SR

Something went wrong!